Negt and Kluge

- mass as bourgeois mass - mechanized forms of production
- interference with experience - something is getting in the way
- what is assumed by the public sphere - democratic space for exchange of ideas - presumed to be egalitarian - face to face communication where you work things out
- the best argument will win - founding ideas around modern democracy
- Habermas - (1962/1989) loss of potential of that sphere
- late 18C - period where writing and reading are crafts rather than generally acquired skills
- governance of oneself - what are the dynamics that prohibit this public sphere?
- is public sphere singular?
- building from Habermas - focus on contemporary media (film, tv, radio)
- private/piblic - production, penetration of media into domestic sphere
- Kluge works in TV/film
- what is the horizon of experience? - what is the organizing feature that allows for the enterprise of critique/revolution/change - making fully democratic that closed bourgeois public sphere
- what is the 'good' of the bourgeois/proletarian spheres?
- what are the limits (horizon) - advancement, affordances? like hegemony
- what is the value of the bourgeois public sphere - its impact or influence on radical change?
- some way of talking about what is offered - sounds like articulation (Gramsci) - inventory of sentiments, fantasy, etc.- in process here and one must organize this
- question of engagement